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CNLP 200: Joshua Gagnon on Rapid Growth, Launching Big and Staying Sane in Leadership


Joshua Gagnon planted Next Level Church a decade ago. It’s become the fastest growing and one of the largest churches in New England history, and has now expanded into Florida.

Joshua talks about what’s driving the growth, how it’s keeping up and how he manages to stay sane amidst all the demands of leadership.

Welcome to Episode 200 of the podcast. Listen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.

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Guest Links

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CNLP 017: Your Excuses Are Gone—How To Grow A Big Church Anywhere (Even In New England). An Interview With Josh Gagnon

CNLP 061: The Insecure Leader – An Interview With Josh Gagnon

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3 Insights from This Episode

1. Experience, statistics and timeline can limit faithfulness 

Experience can be a great asset for a leader. So can statistics and time lines. But they can’t be what ultimately forms decisions.

Leaders have a tendency to over value what God can do in the immediate and underestimate what God can do with a lifetime of faithfulness. Don’t let experience, statistics and timelines create a box that limits your dreams. Be faithful and leave room for God to move.

2. Discontent can be a healthy part of leadership

Discontent can contribute to leadership in a healthy way when it drives us to want to do more for the Kingdom. It can lead us to brokenness or a changed behavior that relies more on Jesus. But there’s a fine line. Don’t let disconnect turn into bitterness and resentment for the people you’ve been called to serve. When channeled correctly, discontent can increase our faith and desire for Him.

3. Mentorship focused on self-leadership will have the greatest overall impact

Leadership is isolating and leaders need mentors. A mentor can share insights into what you’ve already experienced as well as what’s yet to come and help you not feel so alone on the journey.

When you have a mentor or group of mentors in place, enter into your time together hungry to learn. There’s a healthy balance between asking too many questions and not asking enough. Prepare for the conversation in a way that makes your mentor feel valued, but doesn’t make you come across as needy.

When it comes to questions, experience-based questions of the heart will do the most good. Yes, it’s always smart to ask a few questions related to work strategy, but principles that improve the heart will enhance the most aspects of your life. When you grow in self-leadership, everything around you will grow, too.

Quotes from This Episode

Experience can be one of our greatest gifts and greatest enemies.. – @joshgagnonClick To Tweet

Culture is who you are not what you do. – @joshgagnonClick To Tweet

Do what you can do today that you may not be able to do tomorrow. – @joshgagnonClick To Tweet

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Next Episode: Joshua Gagnon interviews Carey Nieuwhof      

Joshua Gagnon, Pastor of Next Level Church, interviews Carey for his podcast and talks about a crazy stupid risk Carey took almost three years ago, what he would change now about the High Impact Leader (and how it’s really working for him) and what’s next for Carey. We play that interview back for you right here.

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